This blog about the second budget meeting held during the day on Wednesday February 22nd is written by guest blogger Lori Wightman.
Thank you so much Lori for writing this blog!!
Budget Deliberations Feb 22
Deliberations were to start at 9am but council moved in camera so they didn’t start until just after 10am. The budget was done differently this year – so, for me, it was a little confusing until I got used to the new format and the fact that they kind of jumped around a bit without referencing page numbers.
The first thing discussed was grants for various Amherstburg organisations. This is an ask that happens every year for various community type organisations like Amherstburg Food and Fellowship, Amherstburg Freedom museum, Park House etc.
There was a substantial back and forth about how much should we be giving these organisations and that maybe we should just give them the same as we did last year (Councillor Courtney) and that we can’t keep going back and giving taxpayer money to people who ask for it (Councillor Allaire). Mayor Prue gave an impassioned talk about how people are suffering and in a time when the need for food is acute he would be reluctant to give only what we gave last year as people will go hungry. Councillor Pouget agreed with Food & Fellowship getting their ask.
Councillor Courtney then made a motion that every organisation get what they received last year except for Food and Fellowship who would get an extra $5000. I believe they were asking for an additional $10,000 (Here’s where I was confused because council members were talking about Park House Museum being on the list but the list that I was looking at did not have that group)
Councillor McArthur made an amendment to keep Food & Fellowship at the $10,000 amount. Councillor Allaire said something but didn’t have her mic on so I didn’t catch it.
The vote was on for Councillor McArthur’s amendment and it passed with Mayor Prue breaking the tie and asking that a message be sent to Food & Fellowship that they have to up their fundraising. (Remember this for later, folks.)
The Fire department section of the budget was flying along in the beginning – salaries, training, etc all approved (most of that kind of had to be as it was part of collective bargaining but it was nice to see some things go fast)
Councillor Allaire was concerned that the budget request for uniforms was below what 2022 actuals were – Chief Montone explained that the actuals go up to November and when you include December the amount was actually over budget.
Councillor Pouget wanted to know if this training was for Boblo or just regular training (I’m sorry – this is an odd question. Fire training for the municipality is fire training for the municipality. Boblo is part of the municipality. We don’t ask if such and such training is for Malden or for Amherst Point so why this question which really does nothing but foster that us and them mindset that we really need less of in Amherstburg) Chief Montone said the training is for all and it is required training from the province that Amherstburg actually started early so we can spread it out before the compliance date.
The next item was Training and Professional Development for the Fire Department. Councillor Courtney wanted to know why the increase. Chief Montone explained that we have more new officers, more have retired so we’ve had lots of promotions and training. One of the aspects of training here is ice water training.
Councillor Allaire wanted to know why we needed ice training as we have the Coast Guard right there. The Coast Guard is not docked there continuously, they serve from here all the way to Sarnia so in the case of an emergency they could be 8 hours away. (I seem to remember this same discussion happening with last council – why can’t we just have the Coast Guard do stuff for us? Because they aren’t ours exclusively))
This was approved as a one time from reserves (If you remember from Sarah’s blog – part of the budget consists of deciding what to put IN to reserves. It seems counterproductive to take from those same reserves)
And this is when the mayor asked for the first time, “So what is our tax rate at now?” the answer was 4.06% (I hope this is not a regular occurrence, we should be adding to reserves not taking from them in order to keep our tax rate low)
The rest of the Fire Budget was approved quickly according to administrations recommendations and then, all of a sudden, there was an extended discussion about the fireboat. (I know what you’re thinking – are they asking for more money for the fireboat? No, they were not. In fact the fireboat was not mentioned at all in the budget so why this tangent by Councillor Courtney I have no idea.)
Anyhoo, Councillor Courtney wanted to know if the boat was even used and then said a few things that made me hope with every fibre of my being that certain loved ones were not listening to these budget deliberations. “Unless you can prove to me you’re pulling bodies out of the river….” and “Do the police not have a boat to recover bodies – ‘cause there really is no urgency there.” He also implied that the boat (I wasn’t clear on whether he meant the fire boat or the police boat) was used to watch fireworks, goes to Crystal Bay and that if needed boaters (regular people that is) will self-rescue so having the fireboat is a bit of a redundancy. Chief Montone responded that since 2018 there were 6 responses – 2 for body recovery and the rest were rescues.
Councillor Pouget questioned about a time when the boat was dry-docked and mentioned something that sounded like the boat was just stored behind some building somewhere and what is the response rate if the boat has to be put in the water each time. Chief Montone said the boat occupies a berth at the Amherstburg Yacht Club and is only taken out for maintenance.
Now we’re moving on to the Libro Centre budget.
A budget enhancement which involved changing 16.5 part time staff to 3 full time and 10 part time. This had no budget impact and Councillor Courtney said that it was a good move because full time employees have more pride in their job than part time (I agree full time employment is always a better motivation, helps retain staff and helps organisations run smoothly and efficiently but remember this for the discussion coming up)
Because this budget center talked about all the different facilities, the conversation veered off for a bit about Bellevue – talk about getting expressions of interest and the vandalism that has occurred there but then stopped because Bellevue will be talked about later in the Facilities portion
Next up was the Executive Assistant – which is a role that would alleviate a lot of the work across multiple divisions (Parks, Facilities, Recreation and Tourism and Building and Planning). There has been someone in this position for about 18 months under contract and part time. The role would be to support and assist in planning projects, advertising, gaining sponsorships, grants etc. Councillor Allaire was enthusiastic in her position that this position would save the municipality money. (And it would – Lots of money!)
Councillor Courtney then asked if we couldn’t just make this a one year contract.
(Remember when he said that full time employees have more pride than part time? How secure and prideful do you think employees are when even though you’ve done the job for a year+ you still have to prove yourself again with a temporary job? When you know next year you may be out of a job?)
He also asked if other municipalities have someone in this position (fair question I guess -I might have asked around prior to deliberations but whatevs) Turns out that most do or a project manager.
Mayor Prue suggested we could fund this temporary position through the tax stabilization fund (more pulling from reserves…sigh)
Deputy Mayor Gibb then said something that hit the nail right on the head – “We need to stop asking ‘do we need this position’ and start asking ‘what do we need to effectively run this municipality.’
Councillor Crain spoke of staff burnout and the no end to the asks for staff.
Councillor Pouget agreed to a one year trial so we could see the savings.
Councillor McArthur said we shouldn’t make them dance for their supper nor should we be pulling from reserves.
Councillor Courtney said contract work is good for optics and that he was blindsided that this person was already in the position.
The CAO explained that council had approved it, it just wasn’t funded in 2022.
Lots more discussion back and forth but my hand was sore so I didn’t record it all.
There was a motion to approve as is (meaning hire someone for this full time permanent position) It wasn’t a recorded vote but I watched – Yes – McArthur, Gibb and Crain No – Courtney, Pouget and Allaire (wait! Councillor Allaire was so positive about this position and all the money it would save us – I don’t get the flip flop). Tie breaker vote went to Mayor Prue (again!) and he voted no. He then passed the gavel and talked about how council hadn’t approved this position (the CAO just told us they had) and that this gives the person another year and it can come back to council next year with proof. And that he knows people don’t like to take from reserves but that they are regularly replenished (are they though?)
Councillor Courtney makes a motion for a 1 year contract with justification next year to come out of the tax stabilisation reserve. Vote falls along the lines as the previous one with Mayor Prue breaking the tie and the motion passes.
Councillor Crain makes a point of saying he is not in agreement with pulling from reserves (good for him for taking a stand)
Next up is Facilities Budget
Most of this passed or didn’t according to the Administration’s recommendation.
Mayor Prue asked again for the updated tax rate – we were at 3.68% now.
The item regarding vandalism involved having funds that would allow repairs to be made right away instead of having to wait. This would be for all facilities town wide. Mayor Prue asked about the possibility of a security system at Bellevue. He was told that it was not included as that would be found in the Capital budget.
(Remember when I told you to remember how Mayor Prue said Food & Fellowship should up their fundraising? Yeah…well…shouldn’t the Bellevue Conservancy be told the same thing? So they can at least secure the building)
Then we come to the Contract Staffing position – Project Management and IT Support. There was some confusion about how this position differed from the previous Executive Assistant position but in reality the description of each budget item explains pretty clearly how they are different – one is for project management, sponsorships, grants etc and one is IT, technical drawing, design, mapping etc. Both of them would allow us to do things in house instead of paying someone else to do them. The savings could be $100,000+
Councillor Courtney asked if we could hold off and if other municipalities have this. We could, it would just cost us and they do.
Deputy Mayor Gibb said that this position was specifically endorsed by the Audit and Finance committee and will be a fraction of the cost of contracting out all these services.
Councillor Crain moved to add this position as administration recommends. The vote played out the same as it did last time but this time Mayor Prue broke the tie in favour of the position. So the position is approved.
After the vote Councillor Courtney asked how much we paid in consultant fees related to this in 2022. There wasn’t an answer handy and to be honest I don’t remember (or care) about when administration will bring back the answer.
It was lunchtime and I needed to step away. LOL
I had some errands to run so I missed a bit of the the Parks and Rec budget section but made it back just in time for the Tourism Community Programming section. OH boy.
The request here was to add $85,000 to the base budget for events in the community including TRUE festival, Open Air, Canada Day, Cars Gone Crazy, Uncommon Festival, River LIghts and the Santa Claus Parade. The increase was because of an increase in the cost of materials and such, because a few events were not included in the 2022 budget and a few other things. The justification given in the report stated “According to the Ontario Ministry of Tourism (Research Unit) the average visitor spend when they visit a community in Essex County is $84 per person for a same day visit and $171 per person for an overnight visit. Tourism and Culture is recognized as one of the top ten pillars of economic success for the Windsor/Essex County region, as reported by the Windsor Essex Economic Development Corporation. That is a significant ROI for every visitor that attends. An estimated $12 million dollars flowing into our economy from Open Air.
The discussion went off the rails a bit when councillors were having a hard time grasping how grant funding operates.
The tourism director explained that the tourism department looks for grants, it’s part of their job and they work very hard at it. HIstorically these events break even or very close to it but that can’t be guaranteed because you are never guaranteed a grant. She added that being able to put into the grant that the municipality is also kicking in money makes the chance of success that much greater. BUT – and this is where it got tricky for some councillors – the grant money applied for doesn’t necessarily come in to pay for this year’s event prior to…sometimes the grant money for 2022 wouldn’t come in until 2023.
Councillor McArthur spoke about how tourism and these events are part of Amherstburg. It’s the thing that allows our residents to spend their time HERE in Amherstburg instead of going to Windsor or Leamington for something to do. It attracts people HERE who spend money all throughout our town – not just in the core but getting gas, stopping at the grocery store. It lets our kids hang out, our seniors walk in the park, people to be out and socialize.
Councillor Allaire didn’t understand how the grant money ($264,000 in 2022) wasn’t reflected in the budget document. She put forward that she would like to reduce the ask to $30,000 or $40,000 instead. She felt that while she liked Open Air that money would be better spent on a basketball court(s) that everyone would use all the time. (I like Open Air, I don’t go all the time but I can most definitely disagree with Councillor Allaire on this. People are always saying that there is nothing for kids to do – Open Air literally has activity in the streets, they can skateboard, ride their bikes – there is literally basketball hoops to play. I don’t agree for a minute that a basketball court or ten would be more useful than Open Air as far as activities for everyone)
Councillor Courtney wanted to know why isn’t the grant money put towards the difference in the base budget. Tourism director Anne Ussoletti Rota explained that with each grant the tourism department needs to get council approval for the festival – so it’s not necessarily a budget item.
The discussion kept veering off into a debate about Open Air.
Councillor Pouget wanted to know how you can prove that Open Air brought in $12 million. The answer was that it’s a provincial model, it’s a formula devised by the province to estimate the economic impact. It’s not something that our tourism department just made up. (It seemed a little harsh to say “how can you prove it”)
There were comments about accessibility for Open Air, parking, businesses getting more business, businesses getting less business, empty streets, full streets etc, etc. It was a LOT.
Mayor Prue spoke about how he and his wife are at Open Air regularly and with her being the Chair of the Accessibility committee she would definitely point out any accessibility issues with the event and that no one has lodged a complaint with the committee. He said our tourism department is an award winning group, no other municipality gets that. The CORE wants to give money to this event, Chamber members are in agreement with this event. Some businesses speak about offset revenue but we have the opportunity to do something here. Do we approve a very successful program put on at a reasonable price for all these festivals and events – why not? Businesses say the issue with Open Air is parking – well, then fix the parking. It was a great speech and made a lot of sense.
They were about to vote. I even wrote my yes and no columns in my notes so I could record. I could see the end of the tunnel!! But….
Councillor Courtney had more questions about how grants come in and how much comes in and couldn’t that go into surplus. The Treasurer said with one of the new positions approved we can definitely get out a report that shows all grant monies.
Then they voted. Not a recorded vote but I watched. Approval for the addition to the tourism budget – Deputy Mayor Gibb, Councillor McArthur, Councillor Crain, Councillor Courtney. No votes – Councillor Allaire and Councillor Pouget. (I think this was one of the only times all day that the Mayor did not have to break a tie vote….)
Then Councillor Courtney made a motion for administration to bring back a business model for all the different options/variations for Open Air – shorter/longer, smaller/bigger footprint, /concentrated on a shorter amount of months etc.
Then there was a long, long discussion of Open Air. (This is really getting tiresome the ongoing year after year debate about Open Air – I don’t know how people can say it is not successful. It very clearly is. Are the streets jam packed every minute of every weekend – no. But the solution to that is to work at making it better, add to it NOT to water it down with shorter times or irregular days)
Councillor Crain commented on how this seems redundant. Didn’t previous council modify this already? (Yes, they had)
Director of Parks, Facilities etc Heidi Baillargeon then said that the success of Open Air is in its consistency. People know they can come her on the weekends and Open Air is on.
(As an aside, Ms. Baillargeon has a very impressive resume. She was an instrumental part in the revitalization of Detroit parks, served Windsor Parks department for many years – we’re pretty lucky to have her because she knows her stuff.)
Deputy Mayor Gibb stated that he had no interest in changes to Open Air. He likes 3 days every weekend but that condensing the length monthwise is a possibility
Councillor McArthur opposed the motion. He said Open Air works, it’s family fun. It’s not just about tourists, it’s about our own residents, our kids. He then said something that I hope all of council heard. He said businesses were willing to spend $20,000 of their money to make Open Air better, to give added value for our kids and we acted like they were urinating on the rug. The reception they were given was awful. Businesses are not going to be making capital investments if we keep debating these things again and again. (it was a very colourful statement but very true – Councillors acted like they were cross examining the delegates, demanding to know if they were aware of the Accessibility Act and asking if delegates said certain things on AM800. I’ve been to a lot of council meetings across this county – every municipality at one time or another – and I have never seen another municipality that gives people/businesses who are looking to invest in our town such a hard time.)
Councillor Courtney stated that businesses won’t make capital investments because we give them free real estate (in the form of them using the streetfront during Open Air) He questioned whether we get more taxes if businesses get an increase in profit/sales. I’m assuming he was being facetious.
CAO Critchley stated that we do not but that if we want businesses to be successful so that they stay in business and keep paying taxes. We want them to be successful because that creates an environment that attracts more businesses and as a result more taxes.
Councillor Pouget stated that 51% of business in the core area were for Open Air and 49% were against. That’s very close. (Yup…?)
Anyway the debate went on and on until finally there was a vote on whether administration should spend their time making a report of every possible configuration of Open Air and the result was yes, they should. Yes votes- Councillor Courtney, Councillor Pouget and Councillor Allaire, No votes – Deputy Mayor Gibb, Councillor McArthur and Councillor Crain. With Mayor Prue breaking the tie again in favour.
That’s all the time I had to watch. My takeaway is that, in my opinion, council needs to remember their job is not to bring back the lowest tax rate, their job is to ensure the financial health of our municipality, to secure the future of our town as a whole. The repeated asks of “What is our tax rate now?” concerns me – they are not going through the budget with eyes on our future. Council needs to remember as well that THEY are not experts, the town employs experts who should be listened to. And on a less important note – I would really like to see a return to decorum. The use of first names only, the language used (“I know you guys get a butt tonne of grants”) and the way delegates are spoken to undermines the seriousness of the job. You are entrusted to make decisions for the residents of this town, you represent us on the greater stage – that is something to be done with diplomacy and professionalism.
Thanks to Sarah for doing this job regularly – I don’t know how you do it but you do and do it well.