** Mayor DiCarlo was absent tonight**
Well, tonight was a full house….standing room only. This was it. The last and final meeting of the current council for this term. We laughed, we cried……well not really. There were a few tears, but I think there was more anger than laughter.
The meeting started off quite pleasantly, but rolled down hill fairly quickly.
RECOGNITIONS
Domenic Silvaggio – Windsor Essex Sports Hall of Fame Inductee
The Clerk read a prepared statement on behalf of the Mayor. It outlined Mr. Silvaggio’s accomplishments and acknowledged him as an ambassador to the Town of Amherstburg. Mr Silvaggio gave a short speech and thanked everyone. They then took a picture of him, with the Deputy Mayor and the girls basketball team that he coaches. Congratulations!
Long Time Service Award Recognition 2018
There were supposed to be some recognition awards presented to a few members of town staff, however none were in attendance to accept them, so this got skipped over.
Supplementary Agenda
Certificates of Appreciation – 2014-2018 Term of Council
Each of the outgoing members of council were recognized with certificates of appreciation. The Clerk read a short, prepared statement for each member on behalf of the mayor. Deputy Mayor DiPasquale was recognized as well as Councillor Pouget, Councillor Fryer, Councillor Lavigne and Councillor Courtney.
Then, each of the outgoing members of council took some time to thank people in sort of a “good bye” speech. I’ll sum them up as best I can.
Councillor Pouget thanked her fellow councillors and administration. She thanked Chief Berthiaume, the Deputy Chief and all of the officers and members of APSB. She also thanked the public and acknowledged having met many amazing people. She thanked her family and friends as well as all of the candidates who ran in the election. She wished the successful candidates good luck, that it’s a big job, a lot of work and to be true to themselves. She told them “don’t drink the Kool-Aid”.
Councillor Meloche spoke briefly and acknowledged Councillor Pouget for her hard work. He wished her well.
Councillor Lavigne then spoke. He explained that he’d been involved in politics for 15 years and that this was his 3rd election. He offered his praises to Councillor Pouget and each of the various members of council. He advised the incoming council not to listen to the nonsense and to stay off of social media. He felt he would be leaving with his head held high. He also thanked Chief Berthiaume and felt that the highlight of his time was being a member of the APSB.
Councillor Courtney spoke and also thanked Councillor Pouget for her 14 years of service. She said that she admires her 14 years of service and that she has helped her to become the councillor that she is. She also thanked each member of the current council for their various strengths. She thanked the people that came regularly to the council meetings and thanked administration.
Concillor Fryer then spoke. He thanked each of the members of council. He thanked his father and expressed how happy and stress-free he is now that the election is over. He expressed his desire to move the town forward and thanked the public and members of administration, some by name. He also mentioned that people should get off social media and only use it to congratulate others, not to get them down.
So, it was all warm and fuzzy….everybody saying kind things to each other…..
And then, the meeting did a complete 180.
PRESENTATIONS
Bruce Ellman, Integrity Commissioner – File 17-09-2018, Final Report
Mr Ellman presented his report about “the leak”. For those that aren’t familiar, please read my pre-meeting blog, since he summed up the reasons for the investigation. I went live with my phone on Facebook during this time, so again, taking notes on my lap and holding the phone at the same time are somewhat difficult. (We were also packed in like sardines tonight. Thank goodness I just lost a bunch of weight, because I’m not sure what I would have done. And I’m not kidding.)
Mr Ellman even acknowledged that he kind of felt like the Grinch who stole Christmas after all these nice things were said. He explained his report, that he was tasked to investigate the in-camera leak. It seems that the leak happened between September 10th and September 13th. It involved Mr Bob Rozankovick sending an email to council that contained confidential information. This part was all laid out in the report. Mr Ellman said he drew the conclusion that Councillor Lavigne was the person who disclosed the confidential information to Mr Rozankovick, the chair of the Amherstburg Police Service Board. Mr Ellman cited several times about the lack of cooperation from Councillor Lavigne and Mr Rozankovick. He acknowledged that the information was circumstantial, since neither party would agree to an interview. He cited two phone calls that Councillor Lavigne placed to the clerk, in which he seemed to clarify what constituted a breach of confidentiality and one in which he asked about the possible outcome to him. Mr Ellman again cited Councillor Lavigne’s failure to cooperate with the investigation process and cited the number of times he tried to get in touch with Councillor Lavigne. He also pointed out that Councillor Lavigne was the only member of council or administration not to sign the Statement of Assurance.
Mr Ellman also spoke of the unnecessary nature of the investigation and that it cost the town money and created anxiety. He felt there were two people privy to exactly what happened……1. the “leaker” and 2 the “receiver”…..He identified Mr Rozankovick as the receiver. Mr Ellman said that either one could have stood up, explained and apologized at any point. He felt that a breach of confidentiality is a serious matter and that sanctions should be imposed. He was recommending no remuneration for Councillor Lavigne for 45 days. He also felt the report should go to the new council so that they could refer to it when it came time for council appointees on boards or committees, since Mr Rozankovick is the chair of the APSB.
Councillor Pouget asked about the other part of the investigation….the one for an independent investigator to investigate administration. Mr Ellman explained that that is not his job. His purview is only to investigate members of council.
Councillor Pouget felt that council couldn’t act on this report without the other investigation being completed. She said something about Councillor Fryer working at CAO Miceli’s computer (I’m not quite sure what that was about?). She then spoke about Councillor Fryer’s failed motion to remove Councillor Lavigne and Mr Rozankovick from the APSB while the investigation was ongoing. She felt that Councillor Lavigne had been presumed guilty, that the report was premature and that council shouldn’t deal with it.
Mr Ellman explained that he was given a task by council and he did it. He felt that based on the balance of probabilities, if what Councillor Pouget was saying was valid, then there was no reason for the two gentlemen not to cooperate with the investigation. He explained that he just makes the report to council but council makes the decision of what to do or not to do, in terms of sanctions.
There was some back and forth between Mr Ellman and Councillor Pouget and Councillor Courtney. Councillor Fryer said that he never touched the CAO’s computer. He felt it was a good idea and had the motion prepared to temporarily remove the two from the APSB in order to keep things clean during the investigation.
Then it came time for a motion…..much back and forth…..at first it seemed there would simply be a motion to receive (which means no sanctions…..i.e. no punishment…..simply receive the report and that’s it). Then Councillor Meloche made a motion to receive the report and have Councillor Lavigne not receive one months pay. Councillor Courtney removed her second, but Councilor Fryer then seconded it. It went to a recorded vote :
In favour: Councillor Fryer and Councillor Meloche
Opposed : Councillor Courtney, Deputy Mayor DiPasquale and Councillor Pouget
So……translation……no sanctions imposed, no “punishment”….no nothing at all…..some people in the audience clapped and cheered. Some didn’t. I will wait to see what the “silent majority” that some think doesn’t exist have to say on the big bad social media that we were told to avoid tonight.
Supplementary Agenda –
Bruce Elman, Integrity Commissioner – Final Report, File 06-07-2018
This report involved a complaint against Councillor Pouget. Since this item was not on the regular agenda I hadn’t read the report ahead of time nor blogged about it in my pre-meeting blog. Here’s a link to Mr Elman’s report :
It’s only 8 pages, so it’s a fairly quick and easy read.
This complaint involved a complaint by the CAO against Councillor Pouget. It involved words said at 3 meetings, two of which were in-camera. Mr Ellman came to the conclusion that Councillor Pouget had used insulting words towards staff at two of the meetings, which is a violation of the code of conduct. He recommended that she issue a written apology to CAO Miceli. Mr Ellman explained that he could not reveal details since they involved in-camera meetings.
Councillor Lavigne was back and the first to question the Integrity Commissioner this time. He asked about the length of time it took to finish the investigation. Mr Ellman explained he received the initial complaint on July 6th. He said generally that it takes 3 to 4 months but since it was election time, he didn’t want the report coming in during the election. Councillor Lavigne then questioned if there was a moratorium for Integrity Commissioner reports during the election. Mr Ellman explained there is in Windsor but it does not exist in Amherstburg. There was some back and forth between Councillor Lavigne and Mr Ellman about this. Mr Ellman explained that the previous Integrity Commissioner would have looked at the code of conduct with council and advised.
(Side note…..I’m going to go back tomorrow and dig a bit on this……I’m 99% sure that this current council voted to make the new code of conduct and vote to hire an Integrity Commissioner……I’m also pretty sure that Councillors Fryer, Pouget and Lavigne had voted against getting an Integrity Commissioner at all and that the Mayor, Deputy Mayor, Councillors Meloche and Courtney voted for it…..I’ll check tomorrow and edit….)
****Edited: Tuesday November 27th** I did some research and found the minutes and sure enough….November 9, 2015 meeting there was the motion and the recorded vote to hire an Integrity Commissioner…..In Favour : Councillor Courtney, Deputy Mayor DiPasquale, Councillor Meloche and Mayor DiCarlo. Opposed were : Councillors Fryer, Lavigne and Pouget*** And yes, this current council also updated the code of conduct at a different meeting.
And I also found an old blog from July 18th 2016, where the Integrity Commissioner (Mr Swayze at the time) presented a training session to council. Worth a quick read if you’re interested…..he spoke at length about confidentiality and how council should treat town staff. Here’s the link :
https://amherstburg2.wordpress.com/2016/07/19/monday-july-18th-special-town-council-meeting/
***Edit finished.**
Councillor Lavigne asked how many complaints had been filed against Councillor Pouget in 4 years time. Mr Ellman refused to answer. He said there are no reports to council about a complaint if it’s unfounded of if there’s no admonition.
Then Councillor Lavigne made a motion to simply receive the report and Councillor Courtney seconded it.
Councillor Fryer felt that if there’s a code of conduct in place and the conduct is habitual that the recommendation would not be different for anybody. He felt that it’s not popular to receive a report of wrong-doing and then do nothing about it. He felt it sent the wrong message to the public. He explained that council gets the reports on Wednesday and they have until Monday to read it and do their homework and he would not support simply receiving the report.
Councillor Meloche said he was party to the events and he thinks that Councillor Pouget owes an apology.
Councillor Lavigne then spoke loudly about cross talk and that people are violating the code of conduct on social media.
The motion was simply to receive the report (no sanction, no apology letter required):
In support : Councillor Courtney, Deputy Mayor DiPasquale, Councillor Lavigne
Opposed : Councillor Fryer and Councillor Meloche
There was some loud clapping from some of the audience.
As much as there were some there supporting Councillor Pouget, I have a feeling that many members of the public won’t be happy about this. But I’ll wait and see…..
Two instances tonight of council members violating the code of conduct and yet absolutely no consequence for them…..
The rest of the items either went through or were deferred for the next council. Until….
Unfinished Business
I went live on Facebook again for this….
Councillor Pouget was concerned that many motions were made at the special meeting and that none of the reports came back tonight as was requested. She cited the motion about the money owed for policing at two festivals. The Clerk pointed out that the issue had been voted on previously, therefore the motion from the last meeting was invalid. It would have to be brought back by someone on the “winning” side.
(I have an example…..since I’ve been to a ton of meetings, this part I understand about the “rules”…..council had previously voted against buying Belle Vue and it had passed 3 to 2….Councillor Courtney had been one of the 3 and she then brought the motion back for reconsideration and then it passed 3 to 2).
The CAO explained that the report they requested was a procedural matter. He seemed surprised that Councillor Pouget had been a councillor for 14 years and hadn’t realized this. He explained that the meeting two weeks ago was a contentious one and that administration missed it at the time and didn’t realize until afterwards. (This was greeted by guffaws and noises in the crowd-the video doesn’t lie-….and I went live with the last meeting….it was contentious, even by what can be caught on the video…..)
Councillor Pouget noted that Councillor Lavigne and the Deputy Mayor had been absent from that other meeting when the motion was made, a month ago and wondered who could bring it forth…….well, only the “winners” can bring it back for reconsideration…..i.e. Mayor DiCarlo, Councillor Fryer or Councillor Meloche.
Councillor Pouget said the issue of this unpaid bill was brought to her attention and she researched the accounts payable. She also went to the APSB. She said there was a motion at the APSB meeting made by Pauline Gemmell and seconded by the Mayor about the amount of the bill. Councillor Pouget said that the Treasurer stated the bill was on his desk. Councillor Pouget felt that we need to find out about the bill, the total amount and who is responsible for it.
CAO Miceli said that the bill was not on anybody’s desk. He asked Councillor Pouget, if during her investigation she had found a copy of a signed contract. It seems the APSB was responsible to get a signed contract for services rendered but was unable to produce one. He again asked Councillor Pouget to produce a contract if she wants anybody named as being responsible.
There was some, what seemed to be angry, back and forth between Councillor Lavigne and the CAO about this issue, since it seems that maybe there isn’t even a contract or paper trail about services rendered?
Councillor Fryer said that council can’t tell the APSB anything. Council simply gets the police budget and that’s it. He said that the APSB didn’t sign a contract and that it’s their obligation to get the money and that the board is responsible to get the money…..so why didn’t the APSB go get the money.
There was more heated exchange between Councillor Lavigne, the CAO and the Treasurer about how bills and receivables flow through the town. The CAO said that APSB kept separate books and waited one year to approach the town about this outstanding issue.
And basically, the issue died right there…..Councillor Meloche (our numbers guy) pointed out that the burden of proof is not there……no contract……
Other new Business
Under “new business”, Councillor Pouget brought up Facebook posts that she attributed to Councillor Meloche and that she found offensive. Councillor Meloche apologized for one small item but the rest he would not apologize for.
She then quoted some words he had written about the meeting on November 13th where he called that meeting a “circus”. Councillor Meloche again said he will not apologize for those words. He said his lawyer was appalled at the behaviour she witnessed at the meeting (so were many others by the way) and that the meeting was quite a “circus”.
Then council was going to go in-camera again, but they deferred it for the next council.
And then it was over. It was finally over. The day I thought may never come. It’s a shame that the meeting took on a negative and confrontational tone during the better part of it. That will always be the lasting impression I’ll have of this council. In my opinion, it was not as volatile as the November 13th meeting, but it certainly wasn’t exemplary by any means. Regardless, it’s over, it’s done and we’re moving onward and upward.
I’m very much looking forward to our new council jumping into gear. I have high expectations of them! I’ll continue blogging…..maybe they’ll be so wonderful, accountable and transparent that I can retire after a little while……? LOL Either way, I plan to continue to blog, so I will see you on the flip side Amherstburg! I’m anxious to see if some of our outgoing councillors take their own advice and stay off of social media?