Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Well, it was shame on me tonight. I thought for sure there was nothing of substance in the agenda and that the meeting would wrap up in one hour. Tops. Wrong. Two hours later……and I left my seat cushion at home, because, well, it seems I’m a fool I guess LOL.
***Councillor Fryer was absent tonight***
There was a supplementary agenda item regarding Belle Vue. Councillor Lavigne declared a conflict on this issue due to his parents home being near the property. Councillor Pouget declared a conflict due to her house being close by.
Breath of fresh air, Councillor Meloche said as a point of clarification that his brother’s name is mentioned in one of the bylaws, but it’s no need for a conflict, just a point of clarification.
Request to Advertise Event on Existing Signage – Lorene Clayton,
Woofa-Roo Pet Fest
Ms Clayton was requesting to use the existing Miracle League sign on Sandwich Street. She seems to want to hang an additional banner or sign underneath the existing sign to advertise local special events (e.g. Woofa-Roo etc.). As it stands, the existing (and very restrictive, in my opinion) sign bylaw only allows signs to go up to promote local events 14 days prior to the event. Ms Clayton said she used to be able to piggy back on Duffy’s large sign to promote her event, until the sign ceased to exist. She had asked if she could purchase the sign but was told no that all signs were going to be taken down. She said she understands the need to limit signs, however, she said that lawns signs are a proven effective tool and that they’re the number 2 way that people find out about her event. Ms Clayton showed a picture of the existing sign and then what it would look like with her additional sign to promote Woofa-Roo underneath. She also said she’d be open to installing loops or rings to put up banners instead of wood signs.
Councillor Pouget asked if she had asked permission from the Miracle League. Ms Clayton said that yes, they had said to go ahead, but she wanted to talk to council first. Councillor Pouget expressed some concern that Ms Clayton wants to put her sign up on a yearly basis and wondered what would happen if somebody else came forth for the space for the same time period. Administration agreed that it would be difficult to coordinate multiple uses. Ms Clayton pointed out that the town has the same issue with overhead street banners and it’s treated as a first come, first serve basis and that this could be done in the same format. She also felt it would eliminate lawn signs. Ms Rubli, Manager of Licensing, pointed out that the Miracle League was responsible for maintenance and any damage to the sign.
CAO Miceli felt it may be time to revisit getting a programmable sign at both entrances of town. It had been talked about two years ago. He said it allows control and can be programmed accordingly to events that are held in town. He felt it was important to advertise events at the entrances of town.
Councillor Meloche said that he felt Ms Clayton’s proposed signage was aesthetically pleasing and that he also liked the CAO’s suggestion. Councillor Courtney, however, did not find the proposed signs aesthetically pleasing and have difficulty mixing the two elements – historic above and a dog underneath….
Councillor Lavigne asked if Ms Clayton would still be using lawn signs. Ms Clayton said she wouldn’t be using any along this stretch of road. She also pointed out that the lawn signs are only allowed for 14 days, which is not much time. Then…….wait for it…….she said that one year she had to take her signs down for 2 days because the Communities in Bloom judges were coming……so she only got 12 days of advertising.
Then, the bomb dropped that Ms Rubli had received an email from the Miracle League stating that they did not want anybody adding additional signage to their existing sign.
So, finally, Ms Clayton did not get the sign she was hoping to get. Instead, council passed a motion to direct administration to get prices and feasibility for electronic signs at both entrances of town.
And, once again, the famous sign bylaw came back to haunt council…..but almost always to the peril of the requester. I guess nobody else seems to notice (or care?) that perhaps the bylaw is just too restrictive……All to appease some out of town judges so we can “win” some blooms?
Staff Accommodation Review – Municipal Office
Since some staff has been added at town hall, space is at a premium. Administration had applied for a grant for the Libro Centre, to do some modifications, however did not receive the grant. As I’m sure everyone is aware, our existing town hall is relatively old and outdated (including the chairs in the gallery of council chambers LOL). Basically, a review has been done to provide some solutions to modifying the space in order to properly accommodate staff. This will cost up to $50,000.
After a bit of discussion, this was approved. It turns out the Mayor is sharing his office with one of the new hires……
River Lights Winter Festival – Future Operation by and Asset Transfer to
the Town of Amherstburg
The River Lights Festival has existed in Amherstburg for many years. It was organized and run by the River Lights Committee (all volunteer), which is a sub-committee of the Amherstburg Chamber of Commerce (also all volunteer). It appears that the Chamber has asked the town to take over the assets of the festival (lights, money and materials) and responsibility of the festival and therefore continue to run it.
There was some discussion about this but not much. Council agreed fairly quickly to take over the River Lights Festival.
Notice of Intent to Demolish – 305 Dalhousie Street
It appears that the Heritage Committee had named this building a “property of interest”. However, since then, the Heritage Committee has decided that this building holds no “significant architectural or cultural value” and is now supporting it’s demolition.
Well, council decided to let the wrecking ball swing. Then…..wait for it……the CAO said that this demolition aligns with the town’s strategic plan for accommodations in town…..That’s all he would say……is it possible this will become a site for a hotel???? I feel almost giddy. Unless there’s some other type of accommodation that I’m not thinking of….
Amherstburg Farmer’s Market – User Fees
The Amherstburg Farmer’s Market has requested to have it’s user fees waived. They’ve made the same request each year (at least as long as I’ve been attending the meetings anyway). Administration is recommending the waiver since the amount has been included in this year’s budget as a “grant and waiver”.
I had guessed this would fly through, so I was right about this one…..very little discussion, a couple of comments and done. Fees waived.
Election Sign By-law and User Fee By-law Amendment
This part of the meeting got, well, kind of crazy and very difficult to follow. Council was to decide on a sign bylaw and user fee bylaw regarding elections (all levels, federal, provincial and municipal) . The bylaw would cover, among many other things:
- Time period that election signs may be placed
- The time period that elections signs must be removed after voting day
- Signs on trailers and vehicles at voting places and Town owned property
- The Town’s logo, trademark and/or crest will not be permitted on election signs
- Placement and number of sign restrictions for different properties
The discussion opened with some members of council discussing an email regarding constitutional rights. It seems that the email went to some members of council, but not all of them. The Clerk explained she had done some research and that the provisions in Amherstburg’s proposed bylaws were the same provisions in some other municipalities.
Bear with me here, people…..I did not see the email. Neither did all of council. It was like trying to make sense of listening of only one side of a three way conversation.
Councillor Meloche asked if there could be legal grounds against the town’s election sign proposal. Mr. Galvin, Director of Engineering and Legislative Services (I never get this guy’s title right and I’m too tired to look it up…..sorry….but he is a lawyer, that I know for sure…..) said that there can always be constitutional challenges but it comes down to striking a balance. He referred to a case at an airport (signs in an airport I guess????). He said that the Elections Act requires a municipality to have a bylaw regarding signs and rental of space. He explained that any constitutional challenge would have to go to the Supreme Court. He again cited the airport and said that in an airport, a person can’t leave if they choose to however, should a politician knock on someone’s door, the person has the freedom to shut the door. Or, if they’re approached in the mall, to keep walking away. He felt that a rented space could be included with this type of scenario. (But, really, the question we should all be concerned about……would we win blooms????? LOL)
Councillor Meloche asked as it stands now, if a candidate could rent the Libro and post their signs. Mr Galvin said that no, not right now. That in general, town facilities should be unbiased and there must be a balance with freedom of speech.
Councillor Pouget then said that she had something handed to her as she came in regarding section 3.5 of this bylaw and that a person was asking these questions. (I still had no clue what they were talking about……so if you’re confused right now, welcome to the club.)
Councillor Pouget then cited another clause and a section of the Municipal Act. (still, none of us knew what was going on……)
Then CAO Miceli seemed to have had enough of the song and dance. He said the email was received at 3:45 today and that this individual wants to challenge the bylaw. The CAO said if he wants to challenge it, then bring it to court. He said one has done it already and lost. He said that there has been lots of time and money wasted by challenging administration.
Mr Galvin said that the policy is based on language in several other municipalities. He said the report is supported by best practices in other areas.
Councillor Lavigne then said that he supports this current proposed policy regarding signs and renting space for elections. He said this has been politics as usual from a certain individual lawyer (and referred to him as “he”) and that he thinks if someone wants to run for election, they should. (Sooooooo……..the only conclusion I can draw from this “who’s on first” discussion is that it seems we have a local male lawyer who is stirring the pot…..????? For what reason, who knows……???? political aspirations?????)
Belle Vue Restoration Project – Roof Stabilization Tender Results
This item was on a supplementary agenda.
Councillor Pouget and Councillor Lavigne left the room due to their conflicts.
Mr Prue addressed council and said that the money was going to be used to redo the roof of Belle Vue. The interior has some water damage since the roof is leaking. By replacing the roof, there would be no more damage to the interior. Windows will be the next project after the roof is redone. Council approved this.
Unfinished Business
It seems the Rotary Club had asked to be able to advertise their organization on the Miracle League sign too. After everything that happened at the beginning of the meeting, that got denied too.
New Business
The song and dance continued……Councillor Pouget made a motion to direct administration to look into amendments to 6.12 in the Election Sign By-law and User Fee By-law Amendment where it states that a candidate can not have events on town owned property. Councillor Lavigne seconded the motion. Councillor Pouget said she had received a concern about this and wanted the amendment to protect council. The Clerk then said that the policy is in line with other municipalities policies and uses the same verbiage. Councillor Lavigne then said he had no idea what they were talking about. The Mayor didn’t either. (Welcome to the Club!!!!!!!!!!! We had no idea either.) Then Councillor Pouget said she had forwarded an email complaint to the Clerk and Deputy Clerk. The Clerk said something about the email saying that the inability to have campaign related actions in public buildings contravenes the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. (It’s back…….the email from the male lawyer……) Councillor Lavigne said then he can take us to court. Councillor Lavigne then removed his second to the motion since he does not want people campaigning in public space (e.g. the arena). So, Deputy Mayor DiPasquale then seconded Councillor Pouget’s motion. (back to square one now….)
Councillor Pouget then gave a little speech (my opinion). She felt this person had a valid concern and was trying to get clarification. The Mayor asked if it’s a Charter level question, then it must not be simple. Mr Galvin concurred. He said that any bylaw can be challenged. He also said that it’s common that candidates can’t rent space in town owned buildings.
Then, Councillor Lavigne said that this type of complaint has been coming continually this term (seems to be still from the local male lawyer……) and that it is a drag on administration’s time and that he wants nothing to do with any of this.
Councillor Pouget asked for a recorded vote.
Mayor DiCarlo then pointed out that if they were to add the option of candidates renting a public facility, could that then be challenged by those who do not want candidates campaigning in public spaces…..and yes, it could happen…… The CAO felt this was a bad route involving public space (e.g. the lobby of the arena is not rentable, and this could spill over into public space….) Mr. Galvin said that involving staff can also be problematic. He felt it’s important to preserve the public trust of facilities.
So, all this round and round and up and down……because a local male lawyer seems to be threatening legal action with alleged Charter infringements…..and I guess that Councillor Pouget is A-OK with candidates setting up shop in public facilities and campaigning (hmmmm…..I could then campaign before, during and after council meetings????……if I decide to run, of course…..)
Anyway, the motion was to direct administration to amend section 6.1.2 and allow candidates to rent public space and campaign.
In Support : Councillor Pouget and Deputy Mayor DiPasquale
Opposed : Councillors Courtney, Lavigne, Meloche and Mayor DiCarlo
If you managed to follow any of that, you did better than I did.
Request for report to Council regarding all infrastructure improvements,
programs and initiatives completed to date to improve the sanitary and
storm sewers – Councillor Pouget
Councillor Pouget presented a motion requesting a full report of the improvements to sanitary and storm sewers in order to have the information shared with insurance companies and other other levels of government.
Councilor Pouget felt that the homeowners insurance, prices and deductible are being affected in the entire county. She felt that this report would indicate the millions that the town has spent trying to prevent sewage backup and flooding. Then, in turn, she thinks that people can send this letter to their insurance company for a reduction in premiums.
Anyway, long story short, I think this was probably posturing (possible reelection time?) but the report will get written. Unless the town will guarantee no flooding, I doubt the insurance companies will care. But what do I know? I wonder what will happen if the reports get written and the letters sent out and the flooding continues…..?
By now it was 8:00…..and I had foolishly left my seat cushion at home……Council then went off behind closed doors to discuss :
SPECIAL IN-CAMERA COUNCIL MEETING
ITEM A – Fort Street & Sandwich Street Development – Section 239(2)(c) – A
proposed or pending acquisition or disposition of land by the municipality or
local board.
ITEM B – Co-An Park Agreement – Section 239(2)(k) – A position, plan,
procedure, criteria or instruction to be applied to any negotiations carried on or
to be carried on by of behalf of the municipality or local board.
ITEM C – Potential Property Acquisition and Disposition Review – Community
Benefit – Section 239(2)(c) – A proposed or pending acquisition or disposition of
land by the municipality or local board.
Well, we may still be months away from the next municipal election but you wouldn’t know it from some of the posturing in tonight’s meeting. Welcome to “silly season” in Amherstburg town council.
Any speculation on the local male lawyer would be appreciated…
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